Legislature(2009 - 2010)BUTROVICH 205

03/01/2010 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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01:32:46 PM Start
01:33:48 PM SB46
02:04:50 PM Anchorage Urban League - Seeds of Change
02:38:03 PM Division of Pioneer Homes: Planning for Tomorrow
02:53:47 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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*+ SB 46 CHILD SUPPORT AWARDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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+ Anchorage Urban League - Seeds of Change TELECONFERENCED
+ Division of Alaska Pioneer Homes TELECONFERENCED
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
                  SB  46-CHILD SUPPORT AWARDS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS announced consideration of SB 46.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS joined the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KOOKESH, sponsor  of SB  46, said  this bill  relates to                                                               
child support guidelines  that were put in place  when the Alaska                                                               
Supreme  Court enacted  Civil Rule  90.3. In  its discussion  the                                                               
court recognized  that this  is a  substantive law  and therefore                                                               
the Legislature could  it replace at any time. SB  46 proposes to                                                               
do that.  He observed that  the most compelling reason  for doing                                                               
so is  that it would  no longer be  necessary to wait  four years                                                               
before  making  changes to  the  guidelines.  The bill  does  not                                                               
intend to change  Civil Rule 90.3; rather, it  places the current                                                               
rule into statute, he said.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DOROTHY SHOCKLEY,  Staff to Senator  Kookesh, clarified  that the                                                               
proposed committee  substitute (CS) does  make a minor  change to                                                               
the rule;  it changes  the word "court"  to "tribunal."  She said                                                               
that  she is  disappointed in  the current  process for  changing                                                               
child  support guidelines  because  the people  who are  affected                                                               
don't have  a change  to speak  to the  individuals who  have the                                                               
power  to make  changes. This  has been  a problem.  The feedback                                                               
that the  sponsor has received  is that people don't  mind paying                                                               
child support,  but they don't  agree with the formula  the court                                                               
has set.  She related that  she encouraged constituents  to write                                                               
to  the review  committee, but  it made  a disappointingly  small                                                               
difference. Just one statewide-call-in  hearing was held. Putting                                                               
the rule into statute is perhaps the only solution, she said.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS asked for a motion to adopt the work draft CS.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  PASKVAN moved  to adopt  the work  draft CS  for SB  46,                                                               
labeled  26-LS0279\S, as  the working  document.  There being  no                                                               
objection, version S was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS asked Ms. Shockley to  compare the CS to the original                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. SHOCKLEY  explained that the  CS changes the word  "court" to                                                               
"tribunal" throughout the bill.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DAVIS noted  that the  packet also  has several  suggested                                                               
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH explained that the  proposed amendments came from                                                               
Stacy  Steinberg  with  the  Department  of  Law  (DOL)  and  the                                                               
committee  could consider  them now  or at  a subsequent  hearing                                                               
after  they've  been incorporated  into  a  new  CS. He  said  he                                                               
supports the changes that the attorney general is recommending.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS asked if he'd like to make any other changes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KOOKESH answered  no; with  the proposed  amendments the                                                               
bill  has the  support  of  the attorney  general  and the  child                                                               
enforcement division and he's pleased.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS said she'd have the new CS drafted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:35 PM                                                                                                                    
KENNETH  KIRK, representing  himself, said  he's an  attorney who                                                               
used to  do child  support cases  and he's  been on  two previous                                                               
review  committees. He  observed  that the  Alaska Supreme  Court                                                               
crossed a  line in 1987  when it  enacted Alaska Civil  Rule 90.3                                                               
because  the Alaska  Constitution does  not allow  the courts  to                                                               
make   substantive   laws;   they   can   make   procedural   and                                                               
administrative rules and decide  individual cases. He opined that                                                               
the  court thought  it was  making  a temporary  fix because  the                                                               
state was in  danger of losing substantial federal  funding if it                                                               
didn't  enact   some  sort  of  guidelines.   Unfortunately,  the                                                               
Legislature hasn't introduced a bill on the subject until now.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. KIRK  said the problem with  the current process is  that the                                                               
review committee receives input from  agencies and the public but                                                               
it doesn't make  the decision. It's the Supreme  Court that makes                                                               
the decision even  though it never hears  from anybody. Sometimes                                                               
the  court  ignores what  the  committee  proposes; sometimes  it                                                               
makes changes  that the committee  never proposed;  and sometimes                                                               
it  substantially alters  the proposals.  This is  very different                                                               
than  the  very democratic  legislative  process.  He added  that                                                               
given the  choice there are small  things he would change  in the                                                               
guidelines, but the system is basically good and it's familiar.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He  informed the  committee  that changing  the  word "court"  to                                                               
"tribunal" comes from the Uniform  Interstate Family Support Act,                                                               
which in  Alaska is AS  25.25, and  it recognizes that  the rules                                                               
will be applied by the court  in some situations and by the Child                                                               
Support  Services   Division  in   other  situations.   The  word                                                               
"tribunal" refers to both.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:49:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KIRK opined  that changing  to  a different  model of  child                                                               
support  guidelines is  worth consideration,  but right  now it's                                                               
more important to pass this law.  He pointed out that most states                                                               
have what is  called the income shares approach  while Alaska has                                                               
the percentage of income approach.  Basically, Alaska bases child                                                               
support on  the non-custodial parent's  income only,  whereas the                                                               
income  shares approach  distributes responsibility  between both                                                               
parents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS  said she isn't  interested in making any  changes to                                                               
this bill due  to the urgency to get something  into statute, but                                                               
later on  she will be interested  in looking at child  support in                                                               
general.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:52:36 PM                                                                                                                    
STACY  STEINBERG, Chief  Assistant Attorney  General, Collections                                                               
and  Support Section,  Civil Division,  Department of  Law (DOL),                                                               
said they  represent the Child Support  Services Division (CSSD),                                                               
and she  worked with the  sponsor to ensure that  the legislation                                                               
would meet the legal requirements.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Referencing  Mr.  Kirk's  testimony,  she pointed  out  that  the                                                               
Alaska Supreme  Court has  ruled that  the guidelines  and [Civil                                                               
Rule   90.3]   are   not   unconstitutional.   Furthermore,   the                                                               
Legislature at  any time  is able  to make  changes to  the court                                                               
rule if  it perceives  problems or believes  that changes  to the                                                               
rule should be made on setting child support awards.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS asked her to review the amendments she's proposing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  STEINBERG  clarified that  her  office  isn't proposing  the                                                               
amendments, but she has worked  with the sponsor to address legal                                                               
issues she spotted.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS  asked Ms. Steinberg  to tell the committee  what she                                                               
suggested to the sponsor.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. STEINBERG provided the following information:                                                                               
   · Page 5, line 13: The $100,000 child support cap should be                                                                  
     $105,000 because the Supreme Court increased the income cap                                                                
     to $105,000 on April 15, 2009.                                                                                             
   · Page 7, lines 23-26: This adds language that the child                                                                     
     support guidelines affidavit should be accompanied by                                                                      
     documentation verifying  the income  and that  the statement                                                               
     should be filed in superior court proceedings.                                                                             
   · Page 8, line 20: This section deals with tribal expenses                                                                   
     and the suggestion  was to change "tribunal" on  line 20, to                                                               
     "superior  court"  because   CSSD  doesn't  allocate  travel                                                               
     expenses between the parents.                                                                                              
   · Page 9, line 29: This section deals with child support                                                                     
     order  forms  and the  suggestion  was  to change  the  word                                                               
     "tribunal" to "superior court" because  these are forms that                                                               
     the court  has and  it doesn't address  CSSD. Alternatively,                                                               
     this section could be eliminated.                                                                                          
   · Page 10, line 4: This too deals with the court forms and                                                                   
     the suggestion is to change "tribunal" to "superior court."                                                                
   · Page 10, line 5: This deals with the dependant tax                                                                         
     deduction  and the  suggestion is  to  change "tribunal"  to                                                               
     "superior   court"  because   CSSD   doesn't  allocate   the                                                               
     dependant  tax deduction  between the  parties when  it sets                                                               
     the child support award.                                                                                                   
   · Page 6, line 21: Make a new subsection (b) following the                                                                   
     word   "means."  that   continues  until   after  the   word                                                               
     "insurance." on  line 28. The language  following that would                                                               
     be a new subsection (c). Renumber subsequent subsections.                                                                  
  · Page 7, line 17: Replace the word "means" with "includes".                                                                  
   · Page 8, line 28: after "insurance" add the phrase "and cash                                                                
     medical support".  Following that  sentence insert  "A child                                                               
     support  award  may  be modified  to  require  cash  medical                                                               
     support  during periods  when  neither  party has  purchased                                                               
     health  insurance for  the children  whether  or not  health                                                               
     insurance  is available  to either  parent  at a  reasonable                                                               
     cost."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. STEINBERG  said she  also informed  the sponsor  that federal                                                               
regulations require  that the section on  healthcare expenses has                                                               
to  define   the  reasonable  cost   of  health   insurance,  the                                                               
accessibility of  health insurance,  and "cash  medical support".                                                               
She noted  that these  aren't currently  addressed in  Civil Rule                                                               
90.3, but that is being addressed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:02:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DAVIS closed public testimony and held SB 46 in committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
At ease from 2:03 p.m. to 2:04 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           ^Anchorage Urban League  - Seeds of Change                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DAVIS   announced  the  next   order  of  business   is  a                                                               
presentation by the Anchorage Urban League.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:50 PM                                                                                                                    
ELEANOR ANDREWS,  Chair, Anchorage  Urban League (AUL),  said AUL                                                               
is the newest affiliate of  the National Urban League, the second                                                               
oldest civil  rights organization in  the nation. Its  purpose is                                                               
to provide direct services to  African Americans and other people                                                               
of  color in  the community  to empower  them to  secure economic                                                               
self-reliance and  parity. She said  she is  emphasizing economic                                                               
self-reliance and parity today because  people have to be able to                                                               
support themselves  in their  communities in  order to  enjoy all                                                               
the rights  of citizenship. The  Anchorage Urban League  seeks to                                                               
help in this  endeavor. She introduced Michael  Sobocinski as the                                                               
person who brought the Seeds of  Change program to the AUL and as                                                               
a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, this is their charter program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:06:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL SOBOCINSKI, PhD., Assistant  Professor of Human Services,                                                               
University of  Alaska Anchorage, stated that  they are interested                                                               
in  helping to  support  youths  coming out  of  the foster  care                                                               
system,   institutional  care,   and  juvenile   justice  systems                                                               
transition  into the  community as  young adults.  This group  of                                                               
young adults is  very vulnerable and at risk for  bad outcomes in                                                               
life.  They   tend  to  struggle   during  the   transition  with                                                               
homelessness, difficulty finding employment  that earns a livable                                                               
wage,  and unsafe  living conditions.  It's  likely that  they'll                                                               
drop  out of  school  and never  go on  to  further education  or                                                               
training and  get involved  with the  criminal justice  system as                                                               
young adults.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDREWS  highlighted the  social  enterprise  aspect of  the                                                               
Alaska  Seeds of  Change program  with the  explanation that  she                                                               
wanted to  use the skills  she learned  in government to  build a                                                               
nonprofit that  ran like  a business.  To that  end, they  have a                                                               
hydroponic   greenhouse   where   kids   that   have   emotional,                                                               
psychological, and  educational problems  will learn how  to work                                                               
and grow  vegetables year round  in an energy-efficient  way. The                                                               
kids will be  able to work at the greenhouse  and then take their                                                               
skills into the community.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SOBOCINSKI said that by  the time institutionally raised kids                                                               
reach age  18 they want a  voice and the opportunity  to practice                                                               
skills they  learn in  non-institutional or  real-world settings.                                                               
They've  noticed  that these  young  adults  participate less  in                                                               
mental health  services and substance abuse  services and perhaps                                                               
it's  because the  programs are  set up  for older  adults. Also,                                                               
there   are  funding   issues  because   there  are   eligibility                                                               
differences  between  children's  services  and  adult  services.                                                               
Sustainability of funding for youth  and young adult programs has                                                               
been a major challenge nationwide.  But what is important in this                                                               
program  is  that  if  youth  are seen  as  resources,  not  just                                                               
problems, there is great potential  for them to realize what they                                                               
can be as adults and contribute  to the community. That's a major                                                               
part of what  the Alaska Seeds of Change program  is built on, he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:12:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SOBOCINSKI  explained  that  Alaska Seeds  of  Change  is  a                                                               
transitional  behavioral   health  program  that   partners  with                                                               
behavioral  health   providers  in   the  community   to  provide                                                               
traditional  services   onsite  to  youth.  This   includes  case                                                               
management,  skill development,  and  other  supports that  these                                                               
youth need. They  know that giving these young  adults the chance                                                               
to work  with an adult in  an employment setting is  the best way                                                               
to  learn and  practice skills  to become  employable. It's  much                                                               
more  effective than  classroom work.  He  related that  he is  a                                                               
faculty  member at  the University  of Alaska  Anchorage and  the                                                               
College of Social Welfare is  interested in using Seeds of Change                                                               
as  a practicum  internship for  students who  are interested  in                                                               
learning  how  to  work  with transition  age  youths  and  young                                                               
adults. They  have been working  with a national  organization at                                                               
the   University  of   South   Florida   that  has   demonstrated                                                               
effectiveness  with this  age group  using an  evidence-supported                                                               
practice. This will  be implemented at Seeds of  Change. It leads                                                               
to functional outcomes;  you measure daily whether  it's making a                                                               
difference in terms of employability,  staying in school, and not                                                               
getting  involved in  the criminal  justice system.  They believe                                                               
this is  an opportunity for  youth to  play a leadership  role in                                                               
developing the  local food system  and contributing  something of                                                               
value to the community.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:14:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ANDREWS  displayed  an architect's  rendering  of  what  the                                                               
facility  will  look  like; it  includes  a  greenhouse,  program                                                               
space,  educational  space,  and  offices.  The  youths  will  be                                                               
involved   in   the   greenhouse,  facilities   maintenance   and                                                               
operations,  administration tracking  crop rotations,  yield, and                                                               
sales.  Hopefully their  involvement  and the  skills they  learn                                                               
translate to other types of  job opportunities. They also plan to                                                               
have  an education  completion program  that's  sponsored by  the                                                               
Anchorage   School   District.   The   superintendant   is   very                                                               
enthusiastic  about working  with  a group  of  kids whose  needs                                                               
haven't been met by the system.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:16:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SOBOCINSKI highlighted the following goals and outcomes:                                                                    
   · Higher rates of permanent employment and job retention.                                                                    
   · Increased high school graduation rates.                                                                                    
   · Increased participation in vocational training.                                                                            
   · Safe and stable housing arrangements.                                                                                      
   · Reduced reliance upon public support.                                                                                      
   · Reduced involvement with the legal system.                                                                                 
   · Creation of jobs that provide meaningful skills and work                                                                   
      experience.                                                                                                               
   · Decreased reliance on public support.                                                                                      
   · Reduce the impact of mental health and substance abuse                                                                     
      problems on daily functioning.                                                                                            
   · Reduce the victimization rate for this age group as they                                                                   
      come out of care and transition to young adulthood.                                                                       
   · Help this age group to become engaged and participate in                                                                   
      the community.                                                                                                            
        · Working in and running the farmers market stands.                                                                     
   · Donating food they grow to hunger reduction efforts like                                                                   
      Kids Café will benefit other children and thus the                                                                        
      community.                                                                                                                
   · Building on the statewide interest in using waste heat                                                                     
      these young adults can become involved in disseminating                                                                   
      best practices for hydroponic growing and energy reduction                                                                
      technologies.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:18:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ANDREWS  informed the committee that  she attended hydroponic                                                               
growing  school last  October. She  added that  marketing in  the                                                               
Anchorage  area  indicates  that  restaurants  and  stores  would                                                               
readily purchase locally-grown hydroponic produce.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She and Mr.  Sobocinski have been working on the  Seeds of Change                                                               
project   for   about   two  years.   After   the   project   was                                                               
conceptualized the Alaska Mental  Health Trust Authority provided                                                               
pre-development funding because they  could see that this program                                                               
would meet the  behavioral health needs of this  age group that's                                                               
basically been "lost in the  shuffle." The Foraker Group has been                                                               
similarly supportive  and provided predevelopment  services. This                                                               
included  help  formulating  a   business  plan  for  the  Denali                                                               
Commission;  an engineer  review; architectural  services; and  a                                                               
quality marketing  study. But, she  said, what really  makes this                                                               
project  work  is  the  public/private  partnership  between  the                                                               
Municipality  of  Anchorage  and  Alaska  Seeds  of  Change.  She                                                               
displayed  an overhead  view of  the  municipal power  generation                                                               
plant and explained  the process for getting warmed  water to the                                                               
hydroponic greenhouse  where vegetables will be  grown year round                                                               
using radiant heat. This means reduced electrical costs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ANDREWS displayed a slide  showing the project fiscal plan as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
     Cost of greenhouse and program space    $5,321,000                                                                         
      Proposed source of funds                                                                                                  
         DHSS BTKH funds                      1,400,000                                                                         
         Private foundations                  1,750,000                                                                         
         Private corporate grants               900,000                                                                         
         Legislative appropriation            1,000,000                                                                         
         Other contributions                    300,000                                                                         
                              Total          $5,350,000                                                                         
     Equity                                                                                                                     
     Estimated municipal land value            $823,000                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The  arrangement for  the DHSS/BTKH  funds is  that they  will be                                                               
matched by  the Denali  Commission. Last  Friday the  new federal                                                               
co-chair   of  the   Denali  Commission   asked  for   additional                                                               
information, but  she doesn't foresee  this as a problem.  She is                                                               
similarly hopeful about the other proposed sources.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:26:34 PM                                                                                                                    
Alaska Seeds of Change major partners are as follows:                                                                           
   · Municipality of Anchorage                                                                                                  
   · Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority                                                                                       
   · Foraker Group                                                                                                              
   · State of Alaska                                                                                                            
        · Division of Juvenile Justice                                                                                          
        · Division of Behavioral Health                                                                                         
        · Office of Children's Services                                                                                         
   · University of Alaska Anchorage                                                                                             
        · College of Health & Social Welfare                                                                                    
   · NeighborWorks of Anchorage                                                                                                 
   · Denali Family Services                                                                                                     
   · Casey Family Foundation: CFF has pledged to reduce the                                                                     
     nationwide foster care population by  50 percent by 2020 and                                                               
     they have  identified Alaska Seeds  of Change as a  new idea                                                               
     to help break  the cycle so these young  people don't become                                                               
     the next generation that has kids they can't support and                                                                   
     don't know how to work.                                                                                                    
   · Facing Foster Care in Alaska                                                                                               
   · University of Alaska Fairbanks                                                                                             
        · Cooperative Extension Services                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   SOBOCINSKI   said   they've  been   approaching   community                                                               
organizations like  the Denali Family  Services with  the message                                                               
that  Alaska Seeds  of Change  is filling  a gap  in the  service                                                               
continuum. It's  designed as a  program to help young  adults who                                                               
have been successful  in care but need a little  support in order                                                               
to  make  the  next  step   to  successful  independence  in  the                                                               
community. He  mentioned the work  that Amanda Metivier  has done                                                               
with Facing  Foster Care in  Alaska (FFCA) and said  working with                                                               
her group  fits with  their model, which  relies heavily  on peer                                                               
supports and mentors, both informal and formal.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He mentioned  the last  partner on  the list  and related  that a                                                               
colleague  is touring  hydroponic growing  facilities in  Arizona                                                               
with an eye  towards a number of Alaska  projects including Seeds                                                               
of  Change.   It's  exciting  to  see   the  connections  between                                                               
different  sectors  and the  intersections  in  this project,  he                                                               
said. He  thanked the  committee for  the opportunity  to present                                                               
the project.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS expressed enthusiasm about the project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:32:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DYSON asked  if  the  existing labor  laws  might be  an                                                               
impediment to putting kids to work.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS replied  the youths who work will be  over age 16 and                                                               
they'll be paid the Alaska minimum wage.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  asked where she is  in the process of  getting the                                                               
$1,000,000 appropriation from the Legislature.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS replied this is the first step.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  observed that  they are late  to the  process this                                                               
year  and  they need  an  influential  champion  on one  or  both                                                               
finance committees.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDREWS  said she hopes  there are champions who  haven't yet                                                               
announced themselves.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS asked what age group is involved.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SOBOCINSKI  replied they're looking  to serve  youths between                                                               
the ages 17 and 22, primarily age 18 to 21.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  said he assumes  they'll track these  youths when                                                               
they  leave  the  program  and  hopes they'll  be  used  to  help                                                               
influence  other   youths.  He  also  hopes   they'll  track  the                                                               
potential savings that were created by this program.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SOBOCINSKI  said  a  major   goal  of  this  project  is  to                                                               
demonstrate   those  kinds   of  changes.   One  reason   they're                                                               
interested in  working with  the University  of South  Florida is                                                               
that they've been measuring functional  and practical outcomes of                                                               
programs nationwide since about 1996.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   PASKVAN  asked   how   many  youths   they  expect   to                                                               
participate,  how long  they would  participate,  and would  they                                                               
potentially come from other areas of the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SOBOSINSKI  replied  they  anticipate  serving  youths  from                                                               
across  the state  who happen  to be  aging out  when they're  in                                                               
Anchorage. Several  treatment programs  are located  in Anchorage                                                               
but  they  draw  from  the  entire  state.  Many  youth  in  this                                                               
situation may  want to return  to other communities but  they may                                                               
or may  not be ready to  do so once  they reach age 18  and leave                                                               
children's services.  Once Seeds  of Change is  up and  going the                                                               
capacity will  be 20 youths.  The program will  be individualized                                                               
so youths will leave the program  when they're ready to move into                                                               
permanent employment,  but they anticipate a  timeframe between 9                                                               
and 18  months. Youths  who graduate from  the program  will have                                                               
the  opportunity  to return  as  youth  leaders and  mentors  for                                                               
summer programming.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS thanked the participants.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       ^ Division of Pioneer Homes: Planning for Tomorrow                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:38:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DAVIS  announced   the  final  order  of   business  is  a                                                               
presentation by the Division of Pioneer Homes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  COTE, Director,  Division of  Alaska Pioneer  Homes, stated                                                               
that his purpose today is  to articulate concern about the number                                                               
of baby-boomers  who very  soon will be  entering the  system. He                                                               
related that he engaged a contractor  to look at the Pioneer Home                                                               
System and  the senior  demographics and  provide recommendations                                                               
on how to properly serve this population.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He displayed  Table 1 that  clearly demonstrates that  the senior                                                               
population is growing and will continue  to grow over the next 20                                                               
years. These  numbers make it  clear that  it's time to  shore up                                                               
the entire service  array for seniors, he said.  There's need for                                                               
more home  and community-based services, private  sector assisted                                                               
living homes, more pioneer home  capacity, and perhaps additional                                                               
nursing homes.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COTE  displayed  Table  2  that shows  that  there  are  508                                                               
licensed beds  in the  six pioneer  homes in  the state.  Table 3                                                               
shows that  462 or 92.2  percent of  those beds are  occupied. He                                                               
added  that the  system  has  operated at  more  than 90  percent                                                               
capacity for  some years. Table  4 demonstrates the  three levels                                                               
of  care: Level  1  independent; level  2  semi independent,  and                                                               
level 3  dependent care. In  all 6  locations over 50  percent of                                                               
the occupants  require level 3  care. He said he  attributes that                                                               
to the success  of the home and  community-based services. People                                                               
aren't presenting  until they're in  their 80s and  their service                                                               
needs are more acute. Table 5 demonstrates this age demographic.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Table  6 illustrates  that  all  6 homes  have  long wait  lists.                                                               
People  on  the   active  wait  list  must  be   ready  to  admit                                                               
him/herself  to a  pioneer  home  within 30  days  of a  tendered                                                               
offer. He  noted that Juneau, for  example, has a four  year wait                                                               
list. He briefly  explained that tables 7-12  give the population                                                               
by age bracket by community for each of the 6 pioneer homes.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COTE said  table 13 illustrates the projected  demand for new                                                               
beds,  2015-2030,  based  on   the  contractor's  analysis.  They                                                               
estimate these additional needs:                                                                                                
   · 98 additional beds by 2015                                                                                                 
   · 131 additional beds by 2020                                                                                                
   · 202 additional beds by 2025                                                                                                
   · 298 additional beds by 2030                                                                                                
   · Total additional bed capacity needed by 2030 is 729.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. COTE said he isn't entirely  sure he agrees with the numbers,                                                               
but he can see  the need to do something and  do it today because                                                               
waiting too long will leave seniors  with no place to go. He said                                                               
he's come to the following conclusions:                                                                                         
   · There is a clear need to expand the entire service array                                                                   
     for seniors over the next 20 years.                                                                                        
   · Pioneer homes have a place in this service array. He                                                                       
     proposes to add bed capacity in a phased approach.                                                                         
   · Conduct a study looking at the feasibility of adding                                                                       
     capacity where land is already available.                                                                                  
             · In Fairbanks they already have 16 acres                                                                          
               available.                                                                                                       
             · The Juneau Pioneer Home was designed to                                                                          
               have another wing.                                                                                               
   · Focus on adding level 3 capacity because that's where the                                                                  
     demand is.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:48:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELLIS asked how much the feasibility study will cost.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COTE replied  he doesn't  know,  but he  realizes that  he's                                                               
missed the opportunity for 2011 money.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS suggested  he gather the information  and perhaps the                                                               
committee could move forward next session.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN  asked how long a  person can be on  the inactive                                                               
wait list.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. COTE  answered forever  as long  as they  live in  Alaska. He                                                               
explained that  to get on  a pioneer home  wait list you  must be                                                               
age 65 or older and be a resident of Alaska for one year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:51:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ELLIS said  he appreciates  the  positive remarks  about                                                               
home and community-based services because  it's the best level of                                                               
care to  keep folks from  needing to go  a pioneer home.  He said                                                               
for years he's followed the  increasing level of acuity of people                                                               
entering  pioneer homes.  When he  first  entered public  service                                                               
pioneer  home residents  were active  community participants  and                                                               
now a  lot of the people  are in critical nursing  care. He noted                                                               
that  the Senate  last year  passed legislation  for annual  rate                                                               
reviews  for  home  and  community-based  services  the  same  as                                                               
hospital and  nursing homes  receive annually,  and if  the House                                                               
passes it  and the  governor signs  it there'd  be a  more secure                                                               
foundation to  deal with  the coming  tsunami of  seniors needing                                                               
help in later years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:53:47 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Davis adjourned the meeting at 2:53 p.m.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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